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pantryslut ([personal profile] pantryslut) wrote2011-03-12 01:38 pm

The Patriarchy Is Insidious That Way

Strange things I have learned today: there is no configuration of "carbon-based" vs. "silicon-based" as add-ons to the standard gendered restroom signs that does not subtly recapitulate problematic tropes about the nature of men vs. women.

(not to mention the equally subtle one about triangles vs. circles, which my daughters have recently brought to my attention due to Simone's repeated desire to "go to the triangle room.")

[identity profile] thette.livejournal.com 2011-03-12 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've seen triangles and circles. Triangles pointing up and down, I've seen at least a few times.

[identity profile] touchyphiliac.livejournal.com 2011-03-12 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Nor even the words "stand up" vs. "sit down," though I like those options.

[identity profile] bifemmefatale.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a hunting-themed restaurant in WI that simply has a picture of a dog on each door. A patron asked, "How do I know which one is men's and which one is ladies?" The server replied, "That one's for pointers and that one's for setters, ma'am."

[identity profile] touchyphiliac.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL!!!

[identity profile] sparkymonster.livejournal.com 2011-03-12 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Huh. Good point. Though I really like the idea of going to the triangle room.

[identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
Carbon silicon do what?

I can't even begin to parse that as anything but "these divisions are silly, go whereever you want to". What is it *supposed* to be...? (This is my confuuuuuuuused frowny face.)

[identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 07:53 am (UTC)(link)
It's a not-uncommon guerrilla relabeling scheme at certain SF cons, and yes, it's meant as a trans-friendly way to convey "these divisions are silly, go wherever you want to."

[identity profile] trinker.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 08:03 am (UTC)(link)
Yay, I have successfully deciphered the folkways of my adopted people!

[identity profile] garnetlocks.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Is that what that was about?
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[personal profile] redbird 2011-03-13 02:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Trans and intersex: Raphael Carter posted about the whole thing shortly after doing it the first time, but zir web site crashed a few years ago and I think was never put back up.

[identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
And so I can't remember if, in the original incident, the standard restroom signs were *replaced* or not. Because that's what I noticed: it has a different effect in each case.
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[personal profile] redbird 2011-03-13 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If I recall correctly, Raphael was prompted to do this by a pair of single-stall restrooms that had no gender labels, either words or drawings. But I am working from distant memory.

[identity profile] abostick59.livejournal.com 2011-03-13 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Some wag appended an "E" to "Silicon(e)-based," unfolding yet another problematic dimension to the recapitulation of problematic tropes. (This was mitigated a bit by "Silicone-based" being on the traditionally-male restroom.)

And, as I noted on Twitter, once again energy beings have been disappeared and ignored. Plasmafail strikes again.

[identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com 2011-03-14 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Silly. Energy beings don't need to use the restroom.

If I think about this too long I am going to start figuring out the waste products of silicon and silicone-based beings and gross myself out.
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[identity profile] tinyrevolution.livejournal.com 2011-03-14 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
The prevailing opinion is that they'd secrete quartz crystals!

[identity profile] sparkymonster.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 03:37 pm (UTC)(link)
psst. Random link drop for your daughter's hair. The site is geared a little older but your household may find it useful.
http://tweenyhair.blogspot.com/

[identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com 2011-03-16 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, awesome. Thank you.

Coincidentally, Simone gets her first haircut tomorrow.