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pantryslut ([personal profile] pantryslut) wrote2006-08-15 08:30 am

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Post-Femme Con thought for the day:

"However, the success of early female punk performers' attempts to desexualize the clothes they wore in such a parodic fashion is debatable. Whereas punk women intended to present these garments in such a way as to discredit their effect as fetishistic, sexually titillating items, the overriding cultural view of women as sex objects may have worked at cross-purposes with their intent. Thus, Laing argues that "an attempt to parody 'sexiness' may simply miss its mark and be read by the omnivorous male gaze as the 'real thing'." Their attempt at resistance, when contained within the subculture's private code, could be, and was, often read by the mainstream press and by observers more in terms of its accomodation, rather than resistance, to feminine sexual stereotypes. While striving to counter stereotypes of women in rock, punk women were repeatedly described as sluts, perverts, whores, and junkies by those outside the subculture."

-- Lauraine Leblanc, Pretty in Punk

[identity profile] psybelle.livejournal.com 2006-08-16 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I tend to believe that meaning is created in dialogue between presenter and audience, and I think I chose this quote b/c I want to think about what it means when the audience has a weight of power and expectation that is so heavy it unbalances the equation.

I'm still stuck on the "obvious truth" of the message being whatever the receiver perceives, no matter what *my* intent is. And I have yet to find a way of dressing/presenting that doesn't land me in categories that I find unsavory to downright untenable...

[identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com 2006-08-16 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
But if I'm "talking to myself", too, as it were, then my intent counts for *something*.

[identity profile] psybelle.livejournal.com 2006-08-16 06:10 am (UTC)(link)
Of course. (But you're a better communicator than I am; my conversations with myself run in little solipsistic circles rather than illustrating challenges to the *rest* of my audience.)


How do you weight your intent against the "power and expectation" of an audience? Actually, that's the wrong question - how do you move the fulcrum?

[identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com 2006-08-16 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
That's the core question. I've been trying out different answers for most of my life. Both in art and personal presentation.