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pantryslut) wrote2006-08-15 08:30 am
pantryslut) wrote2006-08-15 08:30 am
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Post-Femme Con thought for the day:
"However, the success of early female punk performers' attempts to desexualize the clothes they wore in such a parodic fashion is debatable. Whereas punk women intended to present these garments in such a way as to discredit their effect as fetishistic, sexually titillating items, the overriding cultural view of women as sex objects may have worked at cross-purposes with their intent. Thus, Laing argues that "an attempt to parody 'sexiness' may simply miss its mark and be read by the omnivorous male gaze as the 'real thing'." Their attempt at resistance, when contained within the subculture's private code, could be, and was, often read by the mainstream press and by observers more in terms of its accomodation, rather than resistance, to feminine sexual stereotypes. While striving to counter stereotypes of women in rock, punk women were repeatedly described as sluts, perverts, whores, and junkies by those outside the subculture."
-- Lauraine Leblanc, Pretty in Punk
"However, the success of early female punk performers' attempts to desexualize the clothes they wore in such a parodic fashion is debatable. Whereas punk women intended to present these garments in such a way as to discredit their effect as fetishistic, sexually titillating items, the overriding cultural view of women as sex objects may have worked at cross-purposes with their intent. Thus, Laing argues that "an attempt to parody 'sexiness' may simply miss its mark and be read by the omnivorous male gaze as the 'real thing'." Their attempt at resistance, when contained within the subculture's private code, could be, and was, often read by the mainstream press and by observers more in terms of its accomodation, rather than resistance, to feminine sexual stereotypes. While striving to counter stereotypes of women in rock, punk women were repeatedly described as sluts, perverts, whores, and junkies by those outside the subculture."
-- Lauraine Leblanc, Pretty in Punk
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It is true, for example, that a lot of SGs are queer. It is also true that nowhere have bisexuals been mentioned.
*shrug*
I go with the answers I've got, understanding that they're provisional. If you want me to speak American theory rather than French, I'll start over. :)
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But it is true that a) I always start from the sidewalk up, myself, and b) I think we've hit smack into one of what I consider the flaws of the Frenchies, yep.
Nonetheless, you've given me more to chew on, and that makes me happy.
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I don't think the Quebecoise version of this is too far -- and have no doubt we can get there if we wish.
Thanks for a thoughtful, provocative, interesting time.