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[livejournal.com profile] final_girl has been talking recently about the perils of dating a writer.

But I think that it's just as dangerous to merely be friends with a writer.

Date: 2004-10-05 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
Oh, I'm in big trouble!

Date: 2004-10-05 11:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com
Yep.

(But not from me. At the moment.)

Date: 2004-10-05 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
I trust that means something other than that you and I are not friends ...

Remind me...

Date: 2004-10-05 11:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotandrei.livejournal.com
Once I've finished the 1st rewrite, to show you yourself in my fiction. :)

S.

Re: Remind me...

Date: 2004-10-05 11:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotandrei.livejournal.com
Trust me, you have nothing to fear. *I* may have something to fear, but you don't.

Date: 2004-10-05 11:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com
Yes. This means I haven't processed you into my writing. Yet.

Date: 2004-10-05 11:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] postmaudlin.livejournal.com
i think that's absolutely true.

it may actually be MORE dangerous just to be friends -- none of the kind of privacy boundaries that we have about lovers are in place for friends!

Date: 2004-10-05 11:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
Having little or nothing to do with writers, I have said for many years now that "just friends" is the wrong phrase, and it should be "just lovers." After all, anyone can find lovers simply by lowering their standards enough, but friends are a much more complex proposition (as it were).

Ah, OK...

Date: 2004-10-05 11:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotandrei.livejournal.com
I did a brief double-take at this one:

Having little or nothing to do with writers

before I realized that it was the *comment* that had little or nothing to do with writers instead of you. :)

However, in reference to:

After all, anyone can find lovers simply by lowering their standards enough, but friends are a much more complex proposition (as it were).

I guess for me "lovers" is a subcategory of "friends" -- I cannot imagine describing someone as a lover that I would not describe as a friend.

I think that we need a word more publishable than "fuckbuddies", shorter than "anonymous sex partners" or "fellow participants in a one-night-stand", and more accurate than "lovers."

"Just lusters?" ;)

Means, motive, and opportunity

Date: 2004-10-05 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotandrei.livejournal.com
I know that for me, however, I'd take more care to file off the serial numbers in the case of a friend, unless I was quite sure the portrayal was a good one. The worst I've ever threatened an ex-friend with was being an incompetent sublieutenant in a space opera.

An ex-lover, OTOH, would be at risk of my wrath. Which is far more dangerous, since I wouldn't feel as much need to file off numbers, or try to be anything approximating "accurate".

Date: 2004-10-05 11:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com
You were, in fact, the inspiration for this post. I was looking at potholders in a catalog last night, remembered your kitchen fire, and started spinning a storylet out of that whole situation, until I realized that I was doing and put the brakes on, hard.

Date: 2004-10-05 11:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] postmaudlin.livejournal.com
hee! you're allowed.

i just took marc's car break-in and used them as if it had happened to me...

Date: 2004-10-05 11:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotandrei.livejournal.com
If by chance a writer you're dating,
watch out for things complicating --
it's truly much worse
if they write in verse
For it leads to rhymes that are grating.


And if with a writer you're friends,
be aware that for that writer's ends
You might be in a plot
if you want to or not!
Be careful! Lori so recommends.

Date: 2004-10-05 11:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com
The fever has clearly made you delirious.

Date: 2004-10-05 12:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lcohen
i think most dangerous of all is to be in the same room with a writer and to do something unusual, no?

Date: 2004-10-05 02:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordweaverlynn.livejournal.com
I've actually had explicit agreements with writer friends and lovers about who gets to use what stories.

The (currently stalled) historical smutfest features a number of people I know, one of whom insisted I kill him off. Took the plot in a whole new direction.

Date: 2004-10-05 03:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com
I am nowhere near that ethical. Or perhaps I am ethical, in that I am honest with myself that I would not keep any such agreements.

Date: 2004-10-05 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wordweaverlynn.livejournal.com
If I thought it would have hurt the book, I wouldn't have done it. That's *my* ethics. You do what helps the book.

Date: 2004-10-06 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pantryslut.livejournal.com
I merely meant: I get to use *all* stories.

Date: 2004-10-05 10:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] charliegrrrl.livejournal.com
I think to be on the safe side, all writers should be rounded up and killed. Shifty-eyed scribbling fuckers.

I beg your pardon...

Date: 2004-10-05 11:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] imnotandrei.livejournal.com
...but I have never fucked any scribbling, shifty-eyed or otherwise ;)

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