Savage and Kiellor, with links.

[pantryslut]

Dan Savage: This week's Savage Love.

Garrison Kiellor: This week's column in Salon.

I am nothing if not current.


Bonus link: Bitey's translation of Kiellor.

Bonus link #2: Savage's takedown of Kiellor.

Comments

[abostick59.livejournal.com]

Keillor richly deserves the takedown, but Savage isn't winning friends and influencing people over here where I'm sitting.

Umm, the stereotype of the randy husband who wants sex a lot more than his bored wife is a cultural construct, not a universal truth.

Compare and contrast to the Chinese stereotype, for example, of the henpecked and exausted husband who cannot keep up with the insatiable sexual demands of his wife.

My experience, limited though it is, of women's appetites is that they range all over the map. I imagine that men's do also in general. I know that my own are highly variable over time.

Keillor is appalling, and should be roundly beaten about the head and shoulders with a clue-by-four. Savage nonetheless deserves a smack or two also.

[pantryslut.livejournal.com]

It is still my firm opinion that Savage is being inappropriately attacked for sarcastically paraphrasing Sewell and Loh, and that they (Sewell in particular) are the ones who deserve the smacks.

[cindymonkey.livejournal.com]

i concur with the sarcasm of it based on my familiarity with his writing. i don't think that he wrote the sarcasm as well as he has in other pieces - but given the context of his column i did read it as taking the piss.

[abostick59.livejournal.com]

Permalink for the Savage column is http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=175188

[cindymonkey.livejournal.com]

thank you for the links.
my heart broke a little with keillors idiocy.
but it's better to know.

[innerdoggie.livejournal.com]

One small point on Kiellor: the solution for having a zillion grandparents is to call them "Grandma" or "Granddaddy" [fill in first name here], just like aunts and uncles. That worked for us just fine, where we had divorced and remarried grandparents, and great-grandparents who were still alive and "Grandma [last name]" wouldn't have worked.

As for claiming that parents stayed married in the good old days, I say he's lying. I've found divorces in my family tree back to 1876, when my great-great-granddaddy's first wife divorced him because he was financially irresponsible and she wanted to keep her land.

[redbird]

Quite so. Even in the conventional death-do-us-part monogamous heterosexual model, if a child is lucky s/he will need to distinguish among grandparents: I knew who Grandma Paulie and Grandma Mia were, and while I'd address either of them as just "Grandma," if I was talking about them to my parents I used the names as well. I hope Keillor wouldn't argue that my parents should only have let me see one pair of grandparents, to avoid some hypothetical confusion. Can he tell his children apart?

[whumpdotcom.livejournal.com]

I'm waiting for the NTSB report on how Kiellor lost control and lithobraked.